Tuesday, December 16, 2008

Pissed-off again...

Now they really really really pissed me off… (well, it’s the same architect firm who made my life really ‘wonderful’ on two previous occasions!!! )

During the first discussion a few weeks back, they commented that our roof truss drawings are ‘wrong’, not according to theirs. And they asked us to go back and check and clarify whether our dimensions are correct in relevance to the structural drawings of the roof beams. We, of course, went back and rectify our drawings as per their requirements/ instructions/ comments. Not to say that our drawings are totally wrong, but being two young guy whom I would say still quite ‘lacking’ in experience, we are quite unprepared to justify our drawings at that time (a lesson learned well IMO)

Yesterday, we arranged for a second discussion on the same matter but unfortunately they are having a meeting, so it was postponed until today. At the same time, they requested for us to fax the roof structure shop drawings in advance for them to have a look. Well, I complied and faxed to them later in the evening, as I was having a meeting myself in the morning yesterday.

This morning, I receive a call from one of their technical staff. He commented that “we receive your drawings and I found that it is the same with the drawings you submitted to us previously”….

FGS!!! Of course it is still the same, dude!!! In the last discussion, we were told to clarify how we get the dimensions as indicated in our roof truss shop drawings and have made checks in reference to the architectural and structural drawings.

Then that ‘dude’ said “we wan’t the correct set-off drawing”. I asked “what is that?” (I confess I don’t know what is a ‘set-off drawing’, never heard of it before).

He didn’t explain what is a set-off drawing but said further, “we need it to see whether your drawing is correct or not, whether it is according to their drawings and the structural one. We won’t know if your drawing is correct or not as it has to follow the architectural and structural drawings”.

I told that dude, “I am not very sure what a ‘set-off’ drawing is. But what I am very sure we have designed the roof truss based on the architectural and structural drawings. It is foolish of us not to draw against the construction drawings and it is pure lunacy to design something which is taken from the sky!!” So I asked him, “why you didn’t say so in the previous discussion…?”.

To add my anger further.. during the last meeting they only pointed on one particular thing only – one wrong dimension, yea one only!! And they keep on ‘attacking’ us on the one wrong dimension. (It supposed to be 1500mm but we put there 1400mm – of which we could explain why but I won’t go and explain it here). And because of that, our shop drawing is ‘not the same with their drawing’…. And yes, they never mentioned about other things i.e. set-off drawings.. then the principal started blabbing about other things unrelevant to the main objective of the discussion…

I was very angry of course but I tried to be professional about this matter. So I asked the ‘dude’ who talked to me to write their comments and list out all they want us to do and fax to us so that we can take the necessary action. I told him, our main intention was to settle this not-so-big problem quickly so that we can finalised this particular section of the problematic roof. That’s all what’s matter to us most – to settle it once and for all and not doing a ‘ding-dong’ here and there..

You know what he said to me? “I will come back to you later”. Of course he never called me back, so I called him an hour or two ago and he told me this – “we (they) will discuss again among themselves and will come out with their comments”. Oh man, what is that? They confidently call me this morning and told me my drawing is not correct, need this and that… haven’t they already discussed/ commented our one piece of shop drawing?

Maybe, they just simply look at that drawing, see it as ‘still the same as previously’ and didn’t really check thoroughly. And when I tell them we can justify that, they ask for other things… oooh man, I am tired of this…

Why can’t they approach this matter professionally instead of always pushing it back to us? It doesn’t mean that they are the consultant and they can simply say this is right or that is wrong. We also need them to justify their comments. Or perhaps they have made a mistake and try to cover-up their mistake?

Well, for me, a mistake is a mistake… no point of ‘beating around the bush’ to cover up their mess and furthermore, try to push it to other parties. (I learn this from an Architect also, of whom I really respect… of which I had the chance to work with during my tenure in my previous job/ projects. Though I cannot say what I feel for this current architect or firm…)

Now I am even tired of typing this post…

They simply pissed me off today!!! Oh mannnn…

4 comments:

rin-chan 린- 찬 said...

patience hombi.. patience.. but i'd probably be fuming as well.

KaDusMama said...

Sia paham perasaan ko hombidai sebab sia tukang type surat sini opis kami kalau pasal hal2 drawing clarification and mau marah designer or our main con..
I don't think you should be diplomatic in this matter..sebab that me and hubby have been doing all this time..ko tau lah kadang2 designer sendiri lambat confirm all the construction drawing..nah apa lagi..terus kami bomb dorang.!!
kalau mau bagus2..sampai bebulan-bulan pun nda kena confirm tu drawing..lepas tu bila project lambat siap..suka2 mau kasi kena LAD..sepa nda marah kan!!
Apa pun..i think you better type another letter suruh dorang explain apa tu set-off drawing..haha sebab sia pun nda tau apa tu..never heard about it before..

Hombidai said...

haha.. sia panas betul tadi.. tapi nasib sia bulih recover (baru 80% lah hehe)

bikin panas perangai dorang... hai, nasib sia bukan jenis yg suka teriak2... satu upis nanti dengar... hahaha

thanks rin-chan & kdmama

The Explorer said...

Doi na! Masi lagi??!!!!!!!!!!!!! To me its like this.. Architect show how the roof suppose to look. manufacture will provide a 'shop drawing' on how the roof truss members etc etc are connected.. as long as the roof gradient, overhang is similar to the architects, dimensions are ok, Engineers approve.. that's buildable and lets build it! If the architect think that the 'shop drawing' MUST be identical to theirs.. might as well jgn ada shop drawings! Whose the roof manufacturer? Lysaght? Cititop? It will not be a penny unless its been erected on site.. cos thats where the potential problem lies.. not on that sheet of paper.. heck.. after all the pushing and pulling.. sekali tinguk lain pula dia punya problem..

is it a set-off drawings as in setting out drawing? OR a set of drawings as in I want a set of your roof drawings? Hmm... this I need to check.. cos I've been wrong before... damn that PAM Contract 2006 Clause 15.4!!